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 **Observation** **Observation**
  
-https://kvalobs.wiki.met.no/doku.php?id=kvoss:system:qc2:flag:regression+Under https://kvalobs.wiki.met.no/doku.php?id=kvoss:system:qc2:flag:regression
 there are a lot of observations where useinfo(7) has been changed from a there are a lot of observations where useinfo(7) has been changed from a
 positive value (3 or 4 - observasjon er meldt for tidlig/sent) into 0. positive value (3 or 4 - observasjon er meldt for tidlig/sent) into 0.
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 the operational code, as indicated below: the operational code, as indicated below:
  
 +<code>
 bool kvControlInfo::qc2dDone() const bool kvControlInfo::qc2dDone() const
 { {
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 } }
 " "
-<emphasize>+</code> 
 + 
 +**Additional Code Change Required** 
 An additional change is to alter the check for flag f_fs being set into checking An additional change is to alter the check for flag f_fs being set into checking
 for the specific values of f_s which QC2 alone is able to set. fs=1,2,3 for the specific values of f_s which QC2 alone is able to set. fs=1,2,3
 should not imply qc2dDone=true, because fs=1,2,3 is set by QC1, not QC2. should not imply qc2dDone=true, because fs=1,2,3 is set by QC1, not QC2.
 Similarly for the flag f_fd in qc2mDone. Similarly for the flag f_fd in qc2mDone.
-</emphasize> 
  
-=== Working Note ===+ 
 +==== Working Note ====
  
 The Flaggdokumentet update with the new values for fw implies changes  The Flaggdokumentet update with the new values for fw implies changes 
 in setting of useinfo(2) also and will therefore take place after  in setting of useinfo(2) also and will therefore take place after 
 the implementation of 1272 that also involves useinfo(2). the implementation of 1272 that also involves useinfo(2).
 +
 +==== Other raw feedback ... ====
 +
 +... fw flags will satisfy our need for flagging spatial analysis of the available observation data. Here are the not yet official explanation of the flags:
 +
 +fw=0 Ikke kontrollert
 +fw=1 Kontrollert. Funnet i orden
 +fw=2 Kontrollert. Observert verdis avvik fra beregnet verdi er større enn høy testverdi
 +fw=3 Kontrollert. Observert verdis avvik fra beregnet verdi er mindre enn lav testverdi
 +fw=4 Kontrollert. Observert verdis avvik fra beregnet verdi er større enn høyeste testverdi
 +fw=5 Kontrollert. Observert verdis avvik fra beregnet verdi er mindre enn laveste testverdi
 +fw=6 Original verdi mangler eller er forkastet av en annen QC2-kontroll. Interpolert/korrigert med beregnet verdi
 +
 +(fw=7 Vi vil vurdere om interpolasjonsmetodikken (fw-kontrollen) selv kan forkaste en verdi. Foreløpig er vi litt tvilende til det, men holder muligheten åpen.)
 +
 +With "beregnet verdi" we mean the spatial QC2 interpolation method you are developing.
 +We didn't discuss the future but I think that a more sophisticated algorithm in the future with radar/satellite/PROFF information should be able to use the same fw flags. But the test values for setting the flags may be different.
 +
 +Comments to the results presented in the mail below.
 +
 +I comment only useinfo(0-4).
 +Concerning u.info(0) I interpret "Ikke hele QC2" as "Ikke alle eksisterende QC2-kontroller". As existing QC2 checks we can define fs=5-A (QC2d-1), ftime=0-3 (QC2d-2), fw=0-6 (QC2d-3) and fd=7-B (QC2m-2), but this last one is not a QC2m, but rather a QC2d. I propose to skip fstat=0-2 (QC2d-4) and fclim=0-3 (QC2m-1), because these checks will take a lot of time to implement. I think those will be postponed until the other are implemented and work well. With "QC1 er gjennomført" I understand this as "Minst en QC1-kontroll gjennomført".
 +
 +
 +Concerning u.info(4) it is possible to interpret spatial QC2 interpolation as "5: Romkontroll, basert på observasjonsdata". I prefer this instead of "7: Romkontroll, basert på modelldata".
 +"6: Romkontroll, basert på tidsserier" means e.g. Akima interpolation method, which utilize neighbour time series. If interpolation from the candidate timeseries alone, it is better with "4: Konsistenskontroll i forhold til tidligere/senere observasjonsterminer (mer enn én parameter).
 +
 +For me it should be reasonable to do the flagging like this:
 +
 +  * 1. RR24. We have no QC1, only QC2 (fd=7). Then u.info(0)=6. I prefer u.info(4)=5. u.info=68965.
 +  * 2. RR24. We have QC1 (fr=1, fcc=4) and QC2 (fd=7). u.info=58965.
 +  * 3. ftime (TAN/TAX). We have no QC1. fr=6 indicates that original is rejected (and corrected), but this must be due to inconsistence discovered and corrected in QC2 (ftime=1). With this new fw-flag we should have had c.info=1000000160000000 and u.info=60334.
 +  * 4. ftime. Corresponding to 3. c.info=1000000260000000 and u.info=60334.
 +  * 5. ftime. This time ftime=3 (ikke korrigert pga uegnet metode). I interpret this as "original value rejected". c.info=1000002300000000 and u.info=60389. If original value is kept uncorrected, we have c.info=1000000300000000 and u.info=60309.
 +  * 6. This is fnum, not ftime.
 +  * I skip all fnum, because we have chosen fw. I skip all fclim (see above).
 +  * 13. fw. We have QC1 and QC2 (fw=1). Then u.info is OK.
 +  * 14. fw. We have QC1 and QC2 (fw=2). Then u.info is OK.
 +  * 15. fw. We have QC1 and QC2 (fw=3). Then u.info=50105.
 +  * 16. fw. We have QC1 and QC2 (fw=4). Then u.info=50205.
 +  * 17. fw. We have QC1 and QC2 (fw=5). Then u.info=50205.
 +  * 18. fw. We have QC1 and QC2, but fw=8 is not defined.
 +  * 19. No QC2. We have QC1. Then u.info=70000
 +  * 20. No QC2. We have QC1. Then u.info=70000
 +  * 21. No QC2. We have no QC1. Original value is missing. Then u.info is OK.
 +
 +
 +And then to your email of 3 February.
 +
 +
 +  * 1. fcp=3 which means "Originalverdi svært mistenkelig). fhqc=1 (OK) Then u.info is OK.
 +  * 2. We have QC1 (fpre=6). fmis=2 (original value rejected). Then u.info=7?38900?00000XX1.
 +It may happen that u.info(1)=1 but I don't know if this is usual in combination with fpre=6. If correct it is difficult to decide if u.info(7)=4 or 3 or another value. I understand that with QC2 on u.info(7) becomes like 0, which may be OK in real life?
 +
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